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Erica Dusette
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Posted - 2015.05.10 00:19:55 -
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Dagoth Fett wrote:You guys are insane. Corbexx is a resource, a way to have your voice heard by CCP.
If you can't get over yourselves enough to take advantage of this opportunity, you deserve to be ignored.
Vote him out next year if your e-honor demands it. For now, use him. As much as it pains me to say; this guy is right.
Really sad to see the little entitled blue-circle that w-space culture is turning into these days.
Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again!
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Erica Dusette
Isogen 5
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Posted - 2015.05.10 00:54:23 -
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Ilaister wrote:We can and I'm sure we will. Corbexx is a kewl dude and we can access him via many means. He's pretty responsive.
He's been excluded from one WH diplo chan based on the fact it will be used - like the last one was - for catching and murdering nullbears. Amongst other things. There's not even a denial from him that he wouldn't betray the trust inherent in his presence there next time the ping goes out for a ratting carrier tackled in Deklein.
Assuming it's not just bait ofc :)
This is Eve. Trust is a rare commodity. Corbexx muddied those waters with his own actions. Childishness in this thread from some aside, I find it difficult to oppose the democratic decision made by the people that created/run that chan.
We can just mail the best WH CSM we've ever had, no?
It's not just the barring him from participating in the one channel spoken of, it's the general ****-attitude of people who are at the helm of big organizations that matter in w-space. Nobody voted those guys in, and they're doing more harm to the culture overall than any amount of Goon WH CSMs ever could. Think about that for a minute.
I'm sure corbexx will get over not being allowed in that channel. Doesn't sound much like a channel I'd enjoy being a part of either. So edgy and bitter, such elite. Cream of Anoikis right there.
corbexx has been an outstanding WH CSM during his tenures, and from my own personal perspective he's always had time for me whenever I've spoken to him about something relevant in my EVE life. This hasn't changed since his re-election. I rate corbexx highly and always have, though yes, when he did the Goon switch thing I felt that was a real douche move, but despite my instincts I kept faith in him that he'd continue to have his priorities sorted anyway and sure enough he seems to be continuing to do a great job. Probably not the best idea he ever had, but we all make the occasional dumb move. At the end of the day he is still delivering.
Don't let the haters get you down, corbexx. Those of us with half a brain and a broader vision still support you mate.
Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again!
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Erica Dusette
Isogen 5
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Posted - 2015.05.10 01:12:20 -
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Ilaister wrote:Look at you being all serious and stuff again :)
 
corbexx has given wormholes serious time and attention. He's also given my personal concerns as a wormholer serious time too whenever I've spoken to him. That's a dream CSM right there, where anyone can pull him aside and have a talk to him about things wormhole related or even beyond WH's. He'll listen, and he'll usually have stuff forwarded to the relevant Devs even before you've left the convo.
That's just gold. corbexx is a great CSM and if we had some more WH reps with his attitude and approachableness we'd move some serious mountains.
So I dislike it when I see people treating him like dirt, because not only does that effect my issues that I might take to him, but it ends up effecting all of w-space as a whole.
Despite what corp he's in, he's earned my serious replies and support, just like he earned his spot on the CSM.
Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again!
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Erica Dusette
Isogen 5
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Posted - 2015.05.10 01:26:30 -
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Iyokus Patrouette wrote:Still, this is about a goonswarm member not being allowed access into some sort of wormhole diplo channel (which is total bullshit because i've never been invited and i am the most diplomatic person around totes) in that regard i think it's fine that Corbexx not be allowed into it. Yeah, I agree totally. But it's how things are done.
It's the crappy attitude. One that reflects a much broader problem in w-space imho.
The actual channel itself is beside the point. As I said, corbexx has always been super-approachable. I'd tell corbexx to give as good as he gets and show these guys some crappy attitude in return when they turn around sometime and come to him about something wormhole-related (because that's what they deserve), but I know corbexx has more integrity than that.
Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again!
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Erica Dusette
Isogen 5
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Posted - 2015.05.10 09:31:18 -
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Jay Joringer wrote:I don't agree.
There's no point amalgamating the arguments of whether he's a good CSM and whether he should be in a certain channel. They are two different things. I'm not and I wasn't trying to.
You've utterly missed the entire point of my posts.
Jack Miton wrote:If you really think that Corbexx is not a part of the WH community anymore then there really is no helping you. It's ignorant and deeply hypocritical to actually believe that. Couldn't agree more or have said it any better.
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Erica Dusette
Isogen 5
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Posted - 2015.05.10 09:45:26 -
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Axloth Okiah wrote:Jack Miton wrote:If you really think that Corbexx is not a part of the WH community anymore then there really is no helping you. It's ignorant and deeply hypocritical to actually believe that. I dont think that and what I think is irrelevant here anyway. The only relevant thing in this is whether all the representatives from all the wh groups are comfortable with him being in that channel. It really is this simple. I dunno why so many people go out of their way to turn this into some massive thing. As I said numerous time already (and very few people bother to read it), I ,personally, dont really care that much. I'm always happy to answer corbexx and provide him with whatever feedback he needs, I never blocked him in anything, never kicked him form anywhere. I will do for him what he needs to be a CSM. What I will NOT do is to go over the heads of all other WH diplos and CEOs for him. I agree that in a tactical-sense of course, you don't want a pilot from a big nullsec entity sitting in a WH channel that seemingly is used primarily for tactical reasons, batphoning, etc and w/e.
But people don't need to be knobs about it. And people are being knobs about it, and toward corbexx consistently on various levels. The channel thing is just symbolic of it, and I don't feel he deserves that. That's all -I- am saying in my posts and from my viewpoint. And I can promise you that these same folk will be the first to come whining to him when there's a CSM-relevant WH issue that they want raised or looked at.
Or maybe they'll convo Chance?
Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again!
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Erica Dusette
Isogen 5
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Posted - 2015.05.10 11:39:12 -
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Jay Joringer wrote:Erica Dusette wrote: I'm not and I wasn't trying to.
You've utterly missed the entire point of my posts.
No, no. I understand that everyone that doesn't agree with you is acting like a 'knob'. You're entitled to your own opinions on this and I respect your point of view. I didn't give it any credence in-case we get yet another 'actually, he's a great guy' post. Given how understanding you claim to be about people's reactions to all this. you should bear in mind those on the other side of the argument are fully entitled to act like 'knobs'. Not sure if you're trolling or just having real trouble understanding my posts.
I'm not in any way talking about whether or not people agree with me, couldn't care less lol
I was giving my opinion of some people's attitude toward corbexx. If you don't agree with my opinion that doesn't make you a knob at all.
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Erica Dusette
Isogen 5
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Posted - 2015.05.10 11:58:23 -
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Jay Joringer wrote:If I was trolling, I'd flit in and out of my own counter arguments at my convenience and dismiss responses at my leisure. To be fair, despite hinting at those things quite strongly you've not explicitly said them. Technically correct, best correct. Not hinting at anything at all.
I believe the attitude displayed towards corbexx by some people is quite "knobish".
Really a straight forward opinion tbh, not sure what you're getting caught up in.
Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again!
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Erica Dusette
Isogen 5
43430
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Posted - 2015.05.10 12:10:34 -
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Jay Joringer wrote:Having a difference of opinion is hardly 'getting caught up' in anything now, is it?  Not at all.
Just trying to address your insinuations and help you interpret what you're reading a little easier.
I hope it helped. I'm guessing from your big smile that it did, and if you're happy, Jay, I'm happy.
Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again!
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Erica Dusette
Isogen 5
43430
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Posted - 2015.05.10 12:25:11 -
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Jay Joringer wrote:Erica Dusette wrote:Jay Joringer wrote:Having a difference of opinion is hardly 'getting caught up' in anything now, is it?  Not at all. Just trying to address your insinuations and help you interpret what you're reading a little easier. I hope it helped. I'm guessing from your big smile that it did, and if you're happy, Jay, I'm happy. Damn, and I was hoping for a shrewd and consistent exchange. Petty pedantry can indeed keep me happy. It's like 10:30pm here and I gotta be up at like 5am.
Trying to shitup OOPE a little and actually do some flying before I go to bed. This thread is fun though.
Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again!
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Erica Dusette
Isogen 5
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Posted - 2015.05.10 20:44:02 -
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NoobMan wrote:Anyway Happy Mother's Day to the Moms! Erica Dusette aren't you a dude who role plays he has daughters or sisters or something? Anyway happy mothers day to you if your role playing today. Mother's day was yesterday, duh.
I'm not a mother in real-life though, and neither is my character in the EVE one.
But happy mother's day to you and your flock, noob. Heavens knows your children would be lost without you.
Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again!
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Erica Dusette
Isogen 5
43509
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Posted - 2015.05.10 23:30:45 -
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Iyokus Patrouette wrote:LarcatOfZion wrote:Everyone defending corbexx ask yourself this, what has he done for w space since he switched to goons?
Got Erica Dusette unbanned from the forums, not sure if this is good or bad for W Space.. but it was done.

More to do with my extended appeal I think. Though I do thank the folks like yourself who said they contacted corbexx about it and asked him to assist, not that CSMs actually have anything to do with it.
Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again!
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Erica Dusette
Isogen 5
43590
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Posted - 2015.05.11 20:49:16 -
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"Chaos simulator online" - Now with joint diplo/intel channel.
Aladar Dangerface wrote:Ilaister wrote:I think Iyokus is right and Dusette is right and I'm Absolutely Certain that the lack of invite to a prolapser is an oversight that will be seen to forthwith.
Leaving a thread with Erica and the word panties in it because my collar has become very tight all of a sudden.
And it's late. You've been on the sauce again illiaster havent you?  I think he's a wasabi lover. GÖÑ
HTC NecoSino wrote:Jack Miton wrote:a wh diplo channel is a joke. wspace corps need to lose the mentality of 'seeing who wants to come' every time there's a fight and removing the diplo channel is a great step towards that. wspace need corps to do less things together and more things by themselves. What is this WeebleCorp you are now a part of? Closest he could get to a divorce. 
Never did get his corpse...
Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again!
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Erica Dusette
Isogen 5
43909
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Posted - 2015.05.13 23:07:34 -
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Iyokus Patrouette wrote:Oh yeah. i am going to become the Eve-O Forums greatest snitch ever.  I knew something constructive would come out of this thread in the end.
Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again!
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